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Order or visit the factory?
May 7, 2015
6:13 pm
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Mitch
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Over the last 18 months I have done all my research, I have visited the Kit car show last week, I have priced and specced up the model I want but haven't yet made it to the factory. I was going to visit this weekend, but work has now gotten in the way and have a busy weekend and then 2 weeks in sunny Scotland.

My wife says bin the factory visit and test drive (so I can get an order delivered for my birthday) and just buy it, but I think thats mental. Buying this car is all her idea by the way.

What do I do? Wait the two weeks and order but have a late 30th present or just go for it and see what happens?

May 7, 2015
7:00 pm
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Hi Mitch, welcome.

I took probably 6-12 months to decide and GBS is the only factory I visited. But in fairness I had pretty much decided I was going to get a Zero without the factory but that was more down to a friend having one, plus reading about the high quality of the kit.

I'm sure if you go for a GBS you won't be disappointed. This forum has a huge wealth of people with great knowledge who can help with every stage too.

In terms of wanting a visit and test drive first, depending on how far away the factory is, if practical, a couple of weeks' wait isn't a long time in the grand scheme of things when you look at the time it would most likely take to build...could be worth the wait plus you can sit down with Richard etc. to discuss the various options, level of kit you want and get a good look at the cars in the factory.

Also for the future, it may be worth adding your approx location to your profile.

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May 7, 2015
7:23 pm
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Thanks for your reply. Im in South West Wales, but move regularly (serving solider). I don't think I will be disappointed either from what Ive heard and speaking to Ben at Stoneleigh. What I'm looking to do is initially but a full rolling chassis kit (they advertise one for the ford but not Mazda) for the Mazda and go from there but obviously would like to talk the spec through first and see the difference between engines etc. Ive got a 313bhp Audi A7 as my day to day car so want the power but also has to be on budget. Also not sure if the rolling chassis is the same dependent on spec (engine etc) or if things will vary?

May 7, 2015
9:24 pm
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As I have a ford chassis I don't know too much about the Mazda but I know others on here will. As far as I know there is a small mod that can be done to the chassis to change from a 1.6 to a 1.8.

Given the weight, your power to weight ratio will likely be better than the A7 so you should find a nice step up there (don't quote me though!)
There's also options of turbo or supercharged. More power if you need it but as the guys at the factory will tell you; there is an unofficial limit for power beyond which you may find the car less drive-able or encounter more difficulties.

Overall the Mazda seems to be a good option to go for now and can make a slightly lighter car compared to the Ford I believe.

Sure others can add more on the Mazda side of things soon...

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May 7, 2015
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A factory visit is very worthwhile, especially for a trip out with Keith who can really show you what the car is capable of! Well worth a couple of weeks wait imho.

I'm a few months in to a Mazda GT build and went the long way round of buying my own donor to dismantle and refurb parts
I went for a very good condition 2002 Mk2.5 Phoenix special edition which came with a late version 1.8 engine giving 146bhp as standard which is as high as the power got from this engine so a good starting point. It also had 20mm larger front brakes than standard and a limited slip diff, all excellent spec items to transplant. Because the car was in such good condition I sold lots of parts and am about £100 in profit! I'd recommend you source a good later model donor to strip and give the parts to GBS, then sell the rest you don't need to claw back some money. Don't buy a vvt engine or one with a 6 speed gearbox, they're both more troublesome. Don't worry about mileage, the engine and gearbox is very strong so as long as serviced well keeps going. Mine had 94k on the clock and you wouldn't know it!

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May 8, 2015
1:07 pm
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RichardL
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+1 for a visit,
No substitute for
- Talking to the team face to face - you will be anyway during the build so need to get on
- Talking specifics - i.e. why not cue them up over the phone with what you need then they can be ready with an order form or at least you will have gone through the initial drafts.

Bonus - test drive with someone who knows how to get the best out of the car...

Some Ford parts are thin on the ground / depends if you are buying off the shelf reconditioned or breaking another car etc...

Opinion only.

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May 8, 2015
6:27 pm
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Thanks all. I will wait and order the car when I get back after a visit then. Might miss my birthday but I down it will be right when it gets here.

Thanks again.

May 8, 2015
7:25 pm
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Hi Mitch more than welcome to come and have a look over mine and a drive in mine if you want to save 3-4 hour drive to factor .as live in south Wales.

May 8, 2015
8:26 pm
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Chris,
That is a fantastic offer, thank you. Where are you located (roughly if you don't want to be specific)? I am just outside H-West and based on Cawdor Barracks near Solva. I would love to have a look through your build and a good talk about things. How do we exchange contact details without posting them on an open forum?

May 9, 2015
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All good advise

if practical, I would also advise "try before you buy" and a visit to the factory.

thanks for the offer Chris, first hand experience of car and build is always the best advice.

May 10, 2015
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May 10, 2015
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Chris said

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May 11, 2015
8:15 pm
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Chris
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Simon I posted contact details for Mitch to see then removed them.once he had them.Only way untill we have a private message opportunity

May 11, 2015
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sorry

get confused easily, age thing.

am chasing personal posting at the moment, but the site is run by an external party so we have no control.

I can, but it appears members can not have personnel conversations.

another thing to work on Frown

May 12, 2015
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Mitch
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Chris, did you get my email?

May 12, 2015
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Yes Mitch got it .busy with work at mo .

May 17, 2015
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Does anyone know if the GBS factory is open this bank holiday Monday? I have 3 days off for the first and last time in weeks so can squeeze a visit in if it's open?

May 17, 2015
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May 17, 2015
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we may well be closed as the diary says, however I will check and see if anyone will be in unofficially, or could come in for you to at least see the factory setup.

May 18, 2015
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That's great Simon thanks. I will be visiting family in Sheffield so fairly close by.

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