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July 12, 2017
5:17 pm
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30v6
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Hello to all,

My name's Benoit and I live in France near Rambouillet (South West of Paris).
I work in engineering (automotive).

I am currently dismantling a 1999 Mazda MX5 1L8 (RHD, imported from UK).
This car was really nice and has a limited slip differential.
She was fun to drive on small roads near home Laugh

But I really like the "car mounting" process, and I'am ready to spend a lot of time on such a project.
So I've just ordered the GBS standard Mazda kit. Delivery is scheduled in September.

I have to read all of your post, and hope to find information I need to complete the assembly process.
First time I start such a job...
Let's see 🙂

July 12, 2017
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Marlin
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Welcome to the fun. Let the journey begin.
Perfect car for your build.
Take your time and enjoy.
Marlin

Zero GT Mazda(1.8LVVT) ordered Nov 9 '15, arrived Apr 15 '16,

July 12, 2017
9:31 pm
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tradition greeting from area of the factory

"Hey Up"

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July 12, 2017
11:08 pm
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nelmo
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Welcome Wink

I thought it was almost impossible to get a kit car registered in France?

July 13, 2017
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30v6
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You are right. It is nearly impossible to register a kitcar in France.
There is no IVA process in France. We have a "RTI" that is a full homologation process with pollution test, and so on.
In fact it is possible, but the car has to be built by a factory + engine pollution is checked following the latest rule (means a new engine. Assembly of this 0km engine in car has to be as specified by engine homologation). Even with all that, the cost of all tests is so high that it is not reasonnable for a single car.
But impossible is not french 😉

The only reasonnable way to register a kitcar in France is for a classic car (more than 30 years old and unmodified). In that case we have a specific registration process.
So I have to wait for 30 years old GBS zero...

My project is to build that GBS, then to use it on circuit.

July 13, 2017
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Yes, I'd heard the process was something like that...so could you buy a Zero (already built and registered) and get it re-registered in France?

If so, you could build it, bring it back here for IVA, get it registered here and then 'sell' it to yourself Wink (if you wanted a road car).

July 13, 2017
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stewart
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nelmo said
Yes, I'd heard the process was something like that...so could you buy a Zero (already built and registered) and get it re-registered in France?

If so, you could build it, bring it back here for IVA, get it registered here and then 'sell' it to yourself Wink (if you wanted a road car).  

If it is anything like Spain, then NO!CryCryCry
First hand experience - took me over a year trying to do it "correctly", but the IVA and registration in the UK counts for nothing without type approval and an EuroCoC, the latter will enable you to register a vehicle with one, anywhere in the EU (post Bexit, who knows!)
I found a chap who via devious means imports (he may have retired now) Yankee motors and gets them matriculated (tested an registered) in Spain.Wink

Factory built 2 litre Zetec Jenveys 175bhp

July 13, 2017
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I can go for the IVA process in UK and sell the car to someone in France. But the UK registration is valid in France for 12 months maximum after sale.
After that period If I want to be street legal in France, car have to go through RTI (Réception à Titre Isolé = Sole Car homologation).
And RTI means : brake test + light + retrovision + engine emission +....
Car is considered as a new one (date of IVA) and so emission rules is the latest one : not possible with a 1999 Mazda engine.
Cost of these tests is also very high.

No way I think...
(even if I have already seen at least one GBS Zero in french plates).

For mass production cars, it's a lot easier. I bought my Mazda Miata in UK, ask (and pay) Mazda UK for the Certificate Of Conformity (CoC). This homologation certificate is valid in all Europe. Then my Mazda was registered in french plates. Cost of such a certificate copy is approx. 100GBP.
But of course there is no CoC available within GBS. It makes no sens...

July 13, 2017
3:16 pm
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It's strange, I always assume most of Europe (except Germany) are much more lax about these sort of strict rules and it is us who have the stupid H&S, nanny-state nonsense - makes a change to find we are the hippies of the car registration world Wink

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