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Eddies zero
January 16, 2016
8:37 pm
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eddog
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After a couple of months lurking and dreaming and reading blog after blog, thread after thread, I have FINALLY DONE IT!!

Earlier this week I visited GBS and specced up my new project.

I have gone for a Ford Base starter for now, with cobra hoops.
The list of extras I've specced so I can actually do some work straight away is :
Fuel tank
Fuel lines
Brake lines
Wiring harness
BMC mount
Swirl pot mount
Interior panels

Think that's it from GBS for now.

Currently, as I have no mechanical knowledge at all I have no idea what any of that actually means but soon I will learn!!

Finally 1 last thing I have coming, because it seemed too good to miss, is a Sierra rear diff that someone was selling on the GBS owners Facebook page.

Chassis coming in April so expect pictures and lots of silly questions!

Cheers

January 17, 2016
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Sounds like you were in exactly the same position as me. I had no idea what a swirl pot was or half of the other bits i bought, but now they are all home and after following and reading countless blogs, it is all coming together nicely. I had limited mechanical knowledge but it really is as easy as people make out. Im building in a garage that leaks - badly, and has no power but all good so far.

I tried to write a blog that would almost substitute for a manual but I'm nowhere near that, i think mainly because its so straight forwards. Ive got a shipment of parts on the way that id like to get in before I move home in 3 weeks but its coming on nicely.

January 17, 2016
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Congrats and good luck with the build.

I was in the same situation before I started in July - minimal knowledge and no friends or family who know any better or are in the trade, so very scary. But after you've read several blogs countless times and especially when you have it sitting in front of you, it all starts to make sense.

And, just for extra empathy, we just picked up our 8 week old spaniel puppy yesterday - his name? Eddie. 🙂

January 17, 2016
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Mitch I have been following your build blog, think it's going to help me quite a lot!

Nelmo that's what I'm hoping, that seeing all the parts just causes something in my brain to click and it all to fall into place quick. Congrats on the puppy by the way, great name ? hope he can help with the build!!

Time for my 1st question though, as tonight I'm looking at tools and working out what I need to buy ready for the build. I have a pretty decent socket set with Allen keys etc, but I keep seeing rivets and rivnut. Do I need to use both in the build? And then what size rivnuts so I can look at buying the right tools. M6? M8? There's quite a lot of choice!

January 17, 2016
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I found I needed a few extra tools, but nothing too expensive. I bought a small torque wrench as the long one I've got (for changing summer to winter tyres each year) was too big. I bought this....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Drap.....Swg3FUdz74

You will need to use rivets and rivnuts. I bought tools that have multiple heads so I can use them again on other projects.
Rivet gun...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DRAP.....xycmBSryze

Rivnut gun...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PROF.....Sw5VFWLlco

I also bought a crimping tool for the electric parts when I get to that stage...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Drap.....SwMmBVz0-D

I also had to buy a new drill as there is no power in my garage. So went for this Worx drill. Its tiny and fits under the chassis rails so perfect...

https://www.worx.com/en-GB/Worx-WX125-3-D-Lite.aspx

I then bought some 9mm and 3.2mm drill bits, I think i got 2 x 9mm and about 20 x 3.2mm bits. Still got plenty of both left. A few ratchet straps and I think thats all I've needed extra to what I had.

January 20, 2016
7:46 pm
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Happy days today!! Got some goodies from a fellow Zero owner!

A lot more details about it have been added onto my blog,(link below) but in short I now have the following :

7" Sierra 3.62 Differential
Driveshafts
GAZ Shockers

I have no idea what that means about the diff so if anyone wants to explain.....

Cheers

January 20, 2016
7:55 pm
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Nice cheap parts there. Ive got my driveshafts coming next week and my shocks arrived this week. Will be a fun weekend in the garage - well would be if I didn't have to pack the house up ready to move ;-(

January 21, 2016
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Not sure what the 7" refers to for the diff (physical diameter?) but the 3.62 refers to the ratio between internal gears and determines how many revolutions of the wheels will occur for 1 turn of the propshaft.

Basically, a lower number means a slightly slower accelerating car but better economy and more relaxed (lower engine revs) at high speed and a slightly higher top speed.

My diff is a 3.9 so should be slightly worse for economy and will have high revs than you at the same speed but it will accelerate slightly better.

I say 'slightly' because I have no personal experience of the real difference the diff ratio makes - I imagine it will be small.

January 21, 2016
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The 7" refers to the diameter of the ring gear, the largest gear inside the diff.

January 22, 2016
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January 22, 2016
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Cheers guys thanks for explaining.

And thanks Simon, after reading that I now think I'm an expert on diff ratios!!

January 30, 2016
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Next round of questions are here!

I have just spent a week on holiday and because I'm now an "obsessed saddo" according to my wife, all that was going through my mind the whole time was zero zero zero....

So the main things I've been wondering is;

Paint the car? Or wrap it?

Then at what stage should that be done? Before panels mounted but after they're shaped? Or when they are fitted but before finishing the car? Or save the money to get it running 1st then do it after?

What are the pros and cons of doing it 1st or last?

Think my wife is right, I'm an obsessed saddo..

January 31, 2016
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I was exactly the same - its normal (honest)

I was told when i bought mine that to paint it, all the panels need to be on the car and formed (so the paint doesn't crack), before you can paint it. So you need to do quite a lot of work before it can get done. I think if it was done at that stage though, it is vulnerable to scratches and dents in a small garage as most of us have never done anything like this before.

Personally, I quite like the brushed aluminium look when it is highly polished and thats how I'm going to try and finish mine. The wife likes them all painted and one colour though. If i want her opinion, ill give it to her lol

February 1, 2016
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Congratulations ! if you need to see a local Zero on the road, I'm not to far away in Mansfield ? Ford based, with Cobra hoops !

Contact details .... albenwoodcrafts@hotmail.co.uk

Happy to help if you need.

Bill.

February 1, 2016
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Awesome cheers Bill, will definitely organise I visit to see your car at some point!

Nice one Mitch, glad I'm not the only obsessed one then 😉 that's what I thought, will get it on the road and then can paint it after. I like the aluminium look too, but wanting to do something completely different in design. Hope the move is going OK as well Mitch.

February 1, 2016
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Move is pretty much on top of me now. The first bits go thursday along with the kit car and the bits I've got boxed. I want to keep it here, but its getting heavy now so i think its better to move it before I can't.

February 2, 2016
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GOODIES DAY!!

Got a few more bits from Neil today, so I can start cleaning and painting the front and rear breaks so they are done and ready for when I get the car to that stage.

Old Sierra disks pads and drums, all perfect for getting me started then will upgrade in the future to disks all round.

March 19, 2016
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COLLECTION DAY IS COMING!!

Tuesday is finally the day, going to collect my kit. Ordered a van, got a few old tyres to rest the chassis on, some pipe insulation foam to protect the chassis, some rachet straps to tie it all down and some dust sheets to cover things up and protect everything.

As well as a notepad and pen, and a camera, is there anything else i should be taking with me? Anything you used or wish you had taken?

March 19, 2016
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Most parts like the GRP will come bubble wrapped so that should be okay but I would recommend as many old rags/clothes/sheets etc to lay around the van after the chassis is in to lie the GRP and ally panels on. It'll help stop them sliding around.

In terms of other things to take, maybe some gaffer/masking tape to hold a few bits down or tape together to stop movement during the drive home.

Also for info, I have loads of build photos on a CD from another builder if that will help, plus all of my build photos too.

If it isn't broken; take it apart and fix it!

Build PhotoBlog: http://tinyurl.com/GBSz2000

March 20, 2016
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Not in Tuesday afternoon, so may miss your collection, however I am on here most nights and at week ends, and there are plenty of contributors that are building or have built the Zero. If you are not sure, ask, there is no silly question, only the one you did not ask.

Technical knowledge is not required to build the kit, it helps, but is not essential. And, with the greatest respect to the motor trade community, knowing about main stream motor vehicles does little to help with the building of a kit car.

What is of the greatest importance is being able to filter the information you will be bombarded with, especially if you seek it from other sites.

There are many contributers that will offer guidance, as they did X on there 2B or Y on their 3a, or A,B,and C on their car for SVA. you are building a Zero, there are two body versions, two donor versions, and a large number of kit changes that have happened over the last six years.

ALWAYS check that well meaning advise or build diaries, apply to YOUR vehicle.

Sorry, off my soap box, just seen to many lead astray, welcome to the Zero community, will help as much as we can, and if you would like to know some of the more technical side will be happy to educate as well. not essential, but helps if things don't work 🙂

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